Everyone wants to work with the nice leader.
The patient one. The supportive one. The one who always says yes.
But what if being nice is quietly holding you back?
In this episode of The Kind Leader Podcast, Gino Degregori sits down with technology executive and longtime colleague Eric Schrier to explore a challenge many leaders face but rarely talk about:
The tension between being nice and being kind.
After more than 30 years leading teams across industries and cultures, Eric has learned that constantly saying yes, avoiding disappointment, and carrying more than your share may feel helpful in the moment.
But over time, it can leave leaders overwhelmed, overstretched, and unable to create the impact they want.
Together, Gino and Eric explore:
- The difference between kindness and niceness
- Why some leaders struggle to say no
- The hidden cost of always being the reliable one
- How self-reflection improves leadership
- How leaders become overstretched without realizing it
- Why being kind to yourself is just as important as being kind to others
This conversation goes far beyond leadership styles.
It’s about the tension between keeping the peace and telling the truth.
Because niceness keeps the peace.
But kindness keeps the truth.
Connect with Eric Schrier:
- LinkedIn: Eric Schrier
- Email: eschrier@bravocg.com
Connect with The Kind Leader Podcast:
- Website: TheKindLeaderPodcast.com
- YouTube: Kind Leader Podcast
- Apple Podcasts: The Kind Leader
- Spotify: The Kind Leader
- Email: thekindleader@bravocg.com